Stair rail help

pr1970

il y a 11 ans

Hi

We're getting close to completing our new house but we are struggling to decide on a stair rail. The stairs are concrete but will have porcelain tiles , same as the ones going down on the floor below. The walls will probably be a white or light beige.
We wanted to have stainless steel and glass railings but the cost is too much going be the 2 quotes we've had.
Any ideas for a more cost effective solution that looks clean and contemporary?
Thanks a lot

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Linda blanch

il y a 11 ans

Tightened stainless wire rope looks great (STROPS). I think it is used in marine applications but also as railings done with up to about 6x horizontally/ Nice clean and simple.

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pr1970
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il y a 11 ans
Yes did consider the wire type. Are they safe for young kids? We have a 2 and 4 year old.
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Linda blanch
il y a 11 ans
Not really, they can climb or squeeze through unless they are vertical and close together. If you like modern commercial looking interiors what about a simplistic panel with stainless bolts just to add a minimalistic feature. This would not be transparent though. Imagine the sticky fingers on the glass anyway.... Constant cleaning with children.
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charleee
il y a 11 ans
I was thinking smoked acrylic panels? Or textured acrylic panels to avoid the fingerprint dilemma?
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Linda blanch
il y a 11 ans
The only down side with acrylic is it scratches, even careful cleaning can scratch unless you use a special cleaner and soft cloth like an old nappy. I had a ghost chair "NIGHTMARE" I can see little hands with metal cars MMMMMM!
charleee
il y a 11 ans
This is true, the scratching part is a mess. I saw a DIY show where they sanded the acrylic before installation just for that reason, and it was great!
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Linda blanch
il y a 11 ans
I know iron isnt contemporary as such but I had a client where we did a modern take using quite a random knotted twisted approach. It looked awesome.
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benniebonita
il y a 11 ans
Brick may be a option
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Dytecture
il y a 11 ans
I agree there is no way around having a 'modern' look without using one of the two materials. However, stainless steel would be lower maintenance.

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thegoddess317
il y a 11 ans
I built mine out of black maleable iron pipe (any Home Depot or Lowes.) It's easy to fit together and you drill/secure the flange directly into the cement. If it's too industrial try the galvanized or paint it. (If you clear coat or paint it, you may want to do so before installing.)
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pr1970
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il y a 11 ans
Dernière modification :il y a 11 ans
Thanks for the replies.

Bobbi P.. Sounds interesting about sanding the acrylic panels. Any photos of the end result of that? A local staircase builder did suggest it but others said it would look bad and scratch. But if its sanded might be an idea.

villainteriors.. Any photos of that knotted ironwire design?

benniebonita..Thanks for the mockup but I think it would looked too closed in. We want something light and open. Especially as the front door is right next to the stairs and want a few of the living area through to the garden.

Dytecture.. Yes I quite like that design. Thanks

thegoddess317... would be interested to see photos of your malleable iron pipe stairs. But I imagine it may look a bit too industrial for us. I keep imagining it looking like a disabled access ramp to a library. haha
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charleee
il y a 11 ans
I'm sorry, no, I don't have any pictures of the sanded acrylic. But all they did was take a regular sander with a fine sandpaper and sand away. It was pretty cool.
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Linda blanch
il y a 11 ans
Sorry I don't have any pics either. It is basically an iron rod twisted randomly and ocasionally knotted so there is no order in its form. Another option would be a commercial mesh panel or perforated steel panel both will be contemporary and outside the square of the what I call 'normal' application box. I do get bored with the screeds of similar product. look at this link you will see a similar type of iron work if you scroll down http://www.artisticironwork.co.nz/interiorbalustrades.html
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pr1970
Auteur d'origine
il y a 11 ans
Was this the kind of frosted acrylic look? http://houzz.com/photos/126092
Showing it to the wife though she wants a more open feel to the stairs so you can see down from above. I think iron railings with wire cables or thin iron rods maybe the way to go.
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pr1970
Auteur d'origine
il y a 11 ans
Thanks villainteriors, think the twisted effect is interesting but want something quite modern and contemporary. Will have a look through houzz photos some more for that idea.

Wondering whether if we go for painted metal rail to go for a black, silver effect or white?
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charleee
il y a 11 ans
Yes, it was exactly like the pic you referenced. If she wants a more open look without fingerprints the wire cable idea will work.
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Kivi
il y a 11 ans
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I think the cable railing may be a good idea from a budget point of view but I am not sure how practical it would be because of the tight curve of the stairs. It might turn into too many uprights to work out well.
Steel railing like these attached images may be less expensive options than the stainless idea, but again you may not like them if the concern is that your children will climb up the horizontals.
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SECCHIAROLI R crea
il y a 11 ans
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SECCHIAROLI R crea
il y a 11 ans
curve reproduces the mold and the wood is bent
steaming or lamélé Colé * (* french)
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Linda blanch
il y a 11 ans
I think if you google iron mesh it might be what you are after.
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thegoddess317
il y a 11 ans
I just googled iron mesh and love it. I must use it on another project. (Totally unrelated to this stair project) But thanks for the intro to this cool product!
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pr1970
Auteur d'origine
il y a 11 ans
Dernière modification :il y a 11 ans
Thanks for the replies, theyve been helpful but still struggling to get low cost ideas for these stair rails. Have looked into cables but although the cable isnt that expensive the tensors are very expensive,at least what i`ve been quoted locally.
Frosted acrylic is out of the question,my wife doesnt like the frosted look as we want to see the stairs.
Any other ideas??
The stairs will be tiled with something like these porcelain tiles.
http://www.dunkleytiles.co.uk/system/cache/cms_site_products_images_67-2-119_584_584_1.png

What about something like this which should be cheaper and perhaps get steel handrail?
http://www.contemporist.com/photos/pb_orcas_1108_07.jpg
http://www.contemporist.com/photos/pb_orcas_1108_08.jpg

Thanks
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greenthumb2
il y a 11 ans
My neighbor used copper pipe on his deck running vertically and it looks beautiful. Maybe doesn't sound cost effective but with wood or another metal it would be. You could use alternating pipe (think copper, aluminum, steel) just a thought. whatever you decide -- stairs are hazardous so do not scrimp on this item. Good railings, solid anchoring a must.
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houssaon
il y a 11 ans
Have you read this? https://www.houzz.com/discussions/i-love-the-stairswho-did-the-plexiglass-dsvw-vd~90764
How about:
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pr1970
Auteur d'origine
il y a 11 ans
Thanks. Plexiglass and stainless steel is out of the question, costs at least 3 times the price of iron,etc.
Also were not keen on walls as a barrier as it blocs the view too much.
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greenthumb2
il y a 11 ans
what about a sheetrock wall with lots of glass blocks in it? Sturdy, allows light to pass through, safe for stair goers.
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greenthumb2
il y a 11 ans
what about a sheetrock wall with lots of glass blocks in it? Sturdy, allows light to pass through, safe for stair goers.
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Nick Dellos Creations
il y a 11 ans
Dernière modification :il y a 11 ans
it looks like you could put a round stone or concrete column at the turn, say 9" or so in diameter. This could be decorated with a porcelain tile to compliment your treads. Put a tiny turret on top if you like :) Or a steel tube to keep it contemporary. From this solid base, steel or wood handrail would become a much easier task, since they would both be simple straight lines to top and bottom. Fill with balusters and its a done deal.
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Nick Dellos Creations
il y a 11 ans
Also if its to be inspected the handrail part I believe is required to be continuous, so check with your fabricator and inspector.
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User
il y a 11 ans
Flat wood top railing with punched aluminum panels between. There are lots of decorative metal panels that can be cut to fit. provides a sense of openness, adds a bit of artistry and does not have to be a custom (expensive) option. Wood can be painted a gray or punched up with something more colorful. Fasteners can be exposed. Use SS bolts if you are doing that. Check Decometals for the panels.
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Ultra-tec®
il y a 7 ans
Hi pr1970,

I was reviewing the comment about the safety of the horizontal cable railing. You may be interested in reading this article.

Get more information on cable railings at Ultra-tec.com.
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chanex
il y a 6 ans
pr1970, I'm curious as to what you went with for your stair design. I am having the exact dilemma, wanting a somewhat contemporary, pretty transparent, yet safe, look without costing a fortune. I looked into hollow, powder-coated aluminum balusters typically used on exterior decking (try to post pic), but the colors weren't right. If I could get them in a brushed nickel finish, I'd be done with my project. But, no such luck. And any of the stainless-type spindles, even straight, iron ones had to be installed with the clunky baluster shoes. I've seen a few with simple, stainless rods (I'll try to attach those pics as well), but find no info on material resources. I don't like the look of the typical, square balusters even though they have better lines than the dreaded, thin, decorative colonial (?) ones we took out, because the same ones are used right outside on my deck & remind me too much of, well, decking & are quite chunky for the look I'm going for. So, I'd love to see what you came up with. Also, I picked up round, raw, wooden dowels made from poplar last night just to run the idea past my contractor. I'd like to paint them white dove like my trim & stain the handrail & newel posts dark like my floors. They are 1 1/4" diameter (come in at least 4 diff size diameters & 36" or 48" length for under $5 each at Home Depot), are easily paintable & would allow one to see through a little more than square spindles. Contractor said they should install fairly easily, too. I'm just trying to see if I'm over thinking this whole thing & if these would actually date the house more than I see in my head?? A company really should come up with alternative ideas for stairways/balconies that fit a more contemporary/transitional taste...that's AFFORDABLE!!! Sorry for the length. This has just been the biggest headache throughout our remodel & has definitely taken way too much of my energy. But, I'm so curious to hear how your & others' similar projects turned out before I give the final go-ahead on mine. Thanks for listening! ;)
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chanex
il y a 6 ans
Here are the simple, stainless balusters that I cannot find resources for anywhere.
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chanex
il y a 6 ans
Here are a couple more photos, but again, no resources given or they are out of business or products discontinued...maybe that should tell me something.??
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chanex
il y a 6 ans
Dernière modification :il y a 6 ans
The top photo is what I thought the spindles would look like (bought same ones from Menards though)...the bottom ones show what they actually do look like in my house...you'd be able to tell it's a faux job (imo) & like I had to settle on aluminum decking instead. The other item I found is for stairs only, although the co claims to have all your other baluster needs too...BUT, further research shows the whole product line is discontinued. Besides, the clunky shoes again!! Why "sell" it, Home Depot, if people can't buy it? So frustrating!!
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chanex
il y a 6 ans
Oops..here's those links! Sorry to hijack the thread. Just trying to show this is still an issue 5 yrs later! I'll prob make a new post w/ all this info, as well.

(shown with a bronze one too. Just look cheap to me, but for less than $2 ea, what did I expect??

Here's the ss discontinued one...
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